
HP Photosmart Pro B9180 Printer

excellent performance exactly what i was looking for to print 13x19 photographs in large and outstanding matter i have other hp products and have had very good experiences this printer also prints in all sizes up to 13x19 a big step forward in comparison to 8x10 try it you will like it when you make the correct adjustments this machine is for professionals and seasoned amateurs like myself. adb
As a long-time Epson user and a pro photographer, I was a bit hesitant about trying this printer out to replace my aging Epson 2200 that I never could quite get an exact screen-to-printer color match out of despite taking the Epson basic and advanced Print Academy classes. I read many good reviews and a couple of negative ones of the B9180 but the negative ones were about anything but the printer (and the writers sounded like old soreheads, so I didn't place too much stock in them. Some people are just born to be complainers no matter what. They probably can't read the directions for the printer setup anyway.)
This printer is absolutely fantastic and produces staggeringly beautiful prints. The directions for setup were clear and concise and the setup went flawlessly.
I had a couple of questions for HP and called the customer service number in their documentation on a Friday night at 10:30 Central Time and got an English-speaking American within 30 seconds in the queue. My questions were answered promptly, fully and politely.
I haven't yet completely calibrated my workflow and instead produced a couple of prints on HP Advanced Glossy Photo Paper using the supplied AdobeRGB in-printer color management selection in the print driver and it produced the closest spot-on AdobeRGB color match print I've ever seen without custom ICC profiles and Photoshop color management.
I haven't begun to tap all the capabilities of this printer but it no doubt will be the best printer I've ever had and produce better prints than I ever got out of my Epson 2200.
I thoroughly recommend it for amateurs, advanced-amateurs and pros alike. You'll love it and Amazon's great pricing and quick delivery.
I placed an order for this printer through Amazon at the end of May. The delivery date kept getting pushed forward. Nearly one month later, it finally arrived this past Tuesday, 6/19/2007 and I TRIED to install/initialize it today, Sunday, 6/24/2007. The installation process started to go fine except for the paper jamming five times during the print head calibration and the non-existent website the software would have you try to register your product to.
Rather than hassle with Amazon to get a replacement and being optimistic that HP Support could help, I call HP support and was shuttled between SEVEN Customer Service representatives, from an off-shore country, that promised me a technician would be speaking with me shortly; 49 minutes later, I hung up and called Amazon for a replacement. If the replacement comes in sub-par, expect to see an even less favorable review of the product and HP. Geez, how can you trust a company to make decent, reliable products if their senior executives are spying on their Board of Directors and their Board of Directors are divulging confidential information to the public?
HP can occasionally build quality products but cannot treat a customer to a truly positive experience to support their products-at least with the B9180. For being such a big company, they may have talent but their operations support staff is a poor excuse to the customer. Shame on them.
I will update this review after the second printer arrives. And to think I was considering the z3100! Boy, I'm glad I didn't spend the bucks on that one. As it is, HP's pricing structure on the z3100 is extremely convoluted leaving many early adopters out in the cold by $800.00+ for the Advanced Printing System that is now included. Is that the way someone should be treated after dropping $5,000.00 on a printer? Shame on HP.
Ironically, the sales manager at Samy's on Fairfax in Los Angeles is thinking of carrying the HP Fine Art printer line. They already have the big printers from Epson and Cannon. He'll be receiving a call from me this week. One simple question for him, "How many HP headaches do you want?"
I would urge anyone looking for a fine art printer, to consider the mediocre support you'll receive from HP as a strong factor when making a fine art printer purchase. Shame on HP.
The one I received from Amazon was DOA, never got one print from it. I contacted HP immediately and after some waiting on the telephone they set up to replace it. Very nice of them, the replacement arrived less than a week later. Thank you Cindy.
It produces excellent prints especially on the very expensive fine art paper. I don't think this machine is meant for an amature, unless you're loaded or just have a fetish for really spectacular prints. If you have the money to spend it is well worth it. If I didn't sell the prints I think it would be a very expensive habit however. The prints on the fine art paper are luscious, maybe the most realistic I've seen!! I would recommend this printer with some reservations. It does only a pretty fair job on the plain card stock that I use for greeting cards. It really excells as a fine art/photo printer however. Also, lay out the extra bucks and buy straight from HP, it may save you some hassel. I have a Z3100ps GP arriving tomorrow or the day after, I'll let you know about that one at a later date.
I've owned this printer for less than two months. Just last week, it stopped working. After a few minutes with tech support, I was told I have "defective firmware" and that I can exchange it for a new one. Here's what it does: When I print something, it stops in the middle of the first piece of paper, and tells me I'm out of paper. Nothing prints, I'm actually not out of paper, the thing is just totally screwed up. Another thing, when I first bought it and set it up, before I had a chance to print one thing on it, it ran out of black matte ink. It wouldn't let me set it up on the network cause it wouldn't let me past the "out of black matte ink" message on the screen. My local stores do not carry this kind of speciality ink, so I had to wait until my ink arrived in the mail and the network person had to come back to my house to finish setting up the network.
Please note that this printer will not work as advertised with VISTA. HP customer support has informed me that the printer does not support 13x19 printing with VISTA. I learned this after troubleshooting and wasting major amounts of ink and costly paper. In this large size, prints only contain part of the image. I purchased this printer because HPs website advertises this printer as "certified for VISTA" and capable of borderless prints at 13x19. It amazes me that HP continues to falsely advertise their product. Be warned of this issue and HPs decision to continue to falsely advertise.
Out of the box, I plugged it in, installed the driver and photoshop plug in, and was printing. It had an printhead issue when I started printing (a certain printhead wasn't functioning well, resulting in certain colors not printing), but I followed the directions in the manual and on the printer's screen, and the problem was corrected. I was terrified I had broken it, but it corrected the problem with only a few steps. Print head insertion was easy, print cartridge insertion and replacement is really easy. Of course, if you print a lot, you burn through some print cartridges pretty quickly. I found the cartridges easily on Amazon and HP's website. The fancy papers are expensive, but they are specialty papers, so expensive is not surprising. The only thing I find to be a small frustration is when I want to print outside of Photoshop. The Photoshop print plug in is perfect, no worries. However, I am an Aperture user, and would like to print from Aperture sometimes. When I do so, the print colors are different. I find great print to print consistency when printing from Photoshop with the plug in, so that is great. The other quibble I have is the specialty paper door on the from of the printer (the silver panel in photos of the printer). It operates without trouble, the printer knows whats going on when you open the door, it gives you easy to follow instructions on inserting specialty paper, but the door itself feels a little placticky. Not the solid, smooth piece I would want it to be. However, I finally have a printing option for my studio that allows me to print beautiful results without trying to be a printer tech as well as a photographer! As far as I am concerned this is the one stop solution I was looking for.
I'm so sorry. I had this whole big thing written up about how great this printer is, and then my browser crashed, leaving my review behind in the dust. Rather than re-writing it (don't we all hate doing that...), I'll just leave it at that. Great printer. Buy one. Buy their $30 extended 3-year next-day exchange warranty. Good day.
This is the best printer I have ever owned. I still use a lower tech printer for simple text based routine stuff, but when I need to tweak things and send friends photos, the HP B9180 is incredible with respect to what it produces. I'm not a professional, but for my purposes, this printer meets pro requirements.
Current Setup:
Mac OX 10.4.9, G4 Dual 1.25, Photoshop CS2, printing primarily on HP Advanced Photo Glossy paper, Ilford Gallerie Smooth Pearl paper [Download the profile directly from Ilford]
Previous experiance:
-Epson 1280 "old school"
Pros:
-Very substantial size and build
-Good wide color gamut [not as wide as the Canon imagePROGRAF iPF5000 especially when reproducing blue but very comparable to Epson 2400 & 1800]
-Wide variety of media, most of the time the closest comparable driver will work on different media
-24/7 call-in support
-stingy ink usage
-printer based color management is outstanding!
-love the plugin
Cons:
-Took me a second to figure out where to add new media profiles
-Printing on 5x7 sheet media from time to time I have experianced an issue where there is a line ~.25 of and inch thick and neither I nor HP has determined the issue.
-Ink coverage not complete, ie. in solid colors there are fine lines where there is no ink
-DO NOT USE PREMIUM OR PREMIUM PLUS PAPER AS THESE PAPERS HAVE A COATING THAT HELPS PRINTS FROM DYE BASED PRINTERS LAST LONGER; ONLY ADVANCED PAPER, THE PRINTER DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A PROFILE FOR THESE PAPERS.
-There is limited availability of photo paper in my Area, Birmingham, AL MSA
FYI
The first cartridges I had to replace were the light gray and light Cyan, I print portrait photography primarily.
I bought this printer to replace an Epson 2200 and I have been very happy with my choice. As compared to the 2200, I have the following observation:
1. Resolution seems to be virtually identical. This is good as I was always pleased with the resolution of the 2200.
2. Black and white capability much better on the HP. I was never able to get a dead neutral b&w image with the 2200. I could come close if I printed with black ink only, but it was still not quite there. If I printed composite b&w, I always got a slight color cast. With the HP, printing with black ink only gives a very neutral b&w image and printing with composite b&w is almost as neutral.
3. Much less metamerism. One of the problems I had with the 2200 was in evaluating color because it shifted dramatically in different light. This effect is MUCH less evident with the HP.
4. No changing cartridges when going from gloss to matte paper. This is one of the biggest advantages of the HP. It is a real pleasure being able to go back and forth between gloss and matte paper without the hassle (and the wasting of ink) involved in changing the black ink cartridge.
I realize that the Epson 2200 has been replaced with the 2400 and that many of the problems I have experienced with the 2200 have been fixed. However, the 2400 still requires that you change the black ink cartidge. I have seen comparison prints between the 2400 and the HP and the only place that the 2400 might have an advantage is in shadow detail on b&w prints. The 2400 uses three black inks instead of two and this might give it an edge. The slight differences that I THOUGHT I saw were not enough to justify the extra cost of the 2400 and the hassle of changing ink cartridges.
The HP has its built-in self calibration system which should result in more consistent prints -- particularly after changing cartidges. I have not had it long enough to comment on this.
One area where Epson still has an advantage is in paper. There is a greater variety of papers, both from Epson and from third-party suppliers, for the Epson printers. This situation seems to be improving. I am constantly finding more third-party papers that now have a profile for the HP printer.
Another area in which the HP suffers is their software. I am using it with Photoshop CS2 (and the CS3 beta). I have found that some features don't work and that others are a little cumbersome. I have also noticed that if I make a mistake and tell the printer to use the main tray (or to automatically select the tray) when I have put paper in the Specialty Media tray, the printer will stop responding and I have to turn it off to recover. These are minor annoyances and can be overcome just be being careful to do things properly, but this is not the way software (or firmware, if that is where the problem is) should work. I use a PC and have been told that the Mac software works a little better.
I think this printer represents a tremendous value and produces marvelous prints.
I've been using this printer for a couple of weeks now and I'm very happy with it. The prints are spectacular! I've tried a few of the new specialty papers made for this printer. The advanced photo paper makes a print that is smudge free and waterproof from the moment it comes out the printer. The vivera inks are a huge step up from previous inks. By swinging down a door on the front the entire printing mechanism moves up and out of the way to receive heavy flat stock up to 13" x 19". You need some room behind the printer for the paper to move, but the results are amazing. The artist matt canvas creates a wonderful effect. You will need to buy or order wood canvas frames to properly mount them but I love the effect.
The printer is quite large. I had to make a new area for it. Also you never turn it off. They recommend letting it run and do automatic print head maintenance. I've had mine on since it arrived. Every now and then there is a little noise as it goes through it's routine. I only notice it every few days and it's pretty quick.
This is a very high end printer. My friends have the similar new Epson and Canon printers and the HP blows them away. The ink cartridges are quite large; 2-3 times more ink then the other brands. After many prints the levels have hardly moved. If you want professional quality prints on a variety of papers, including flat heavy stock, this is the printer for you.
I have had my HP B9180 Photo Printer for five weeks now and I'm very happy with it. The print quality is outstanding and the printer has been trouble free since I set it up. I've printed photos from 4 x 6 up to 13 x 19 from both the main tray and the specialty tray.
The box arrived with some dents and dings, however, the printer is fine. The easy to follow directions made start up a nonevent. I'm still(after a month of intermittent use) trying to get the color management issues resolved. I only have Photoshop Elements that, apparently, doesn't support the one stop shopping color management that a more expensive version has. Using printer managed color does a nice job but I'm wondering if the prints could be even better.
I installed the wireless print kit and finally got that working after a day of fooling with it. The directions are more of a rough outline and a few things were different.
The summary is that it makes great prints and takes up a big space. I have not had any paper slewing problems with 4 x 6 to 13 x 19 sheets.
Prints beautiful images and can print on media up to 44" long! I've printed on vinyl for car magnets, and it works great...just remember to over-laminate your finished work if you intend for it to be waterproof...otherwise the pigmented ink will smear if allowed to be wet then wiped.
Other than that...great printer!
Ive only had the printer a short while but have printed enough to see that this a great printer, extremely easy to set up, a great deal for all that you get and excellent print quality. The new pigment inks this printer uses are said to be fade resistant for nearly 200 years, for a while pigment inks didnt look as good as dye based inks, especially on glossy paper, but hps new vivera inks are gorgeous!
The printer is quiet, and unobtrusive when printing (though its always kinda big on the desktop but thats part of the deal with a larger format printer).
The quality of the chassis is excellent and all parts work together very nicely, you can tell that alot of thought and time went into this design.
Most importantly, though ive used it on and off for about a month, i haven't seen any problems with clogged nozzles or banding or any of that, hp recommends the printer be left on all the time and it will intermittently run some diagnostics and very short cleaning cycles which are said to use almost no ink (unlike epson which has big problems with clogging, and volume of ink used during cleaning in my experience).
What a great printer! Buy it for sure! As of February 2007, its only competition is from epson (as the canon pigment 13 inch wide printer hasn't come out yet) and it beats the epson for three important reasons.
The hp can print on matte and glossy paper with no toggling of the black ink cartridge (a stupid idea that a big company like epson should no better than to implement), the heads in the hp are replaceable (for about $40-), whereas the epsons aren't. If they were to develop a very bad clog or be damaged or wear out, they are easily replaced and the printer would then self-calibrate itself to compensate for any differences between the two heads (awesome! and something the epson cannot do.), and the cleaning issue already discussed. Ive had two epson printers, both of which hated me the whole time, always being whiny about how their heads were dirty and wasting paper and ink by clogging in the middle of the print (something the hps built in calibrator will recognize and correct for, thanks hp guys!)
Its only drawback is that its a little bit ugly...but...well...its ugly, make up your own mind (sorta ugly like an old volvo though, in my experience things like that tend to grown on you!)
So in summary, hp clearly spent alot of time to win market share from epson (who basically invented bubble-jet printing tenish years ago) and has done a GREAT job of it. This printer really raises the bar for all other inexpensive high grade amateur printers. If you can afford it, you will be very pleased with your purchase.
WOW! That is the only description I had as my first 13 X 19 print rolled off this printer. I printed on HP soft gloss premium plus paper, and the prints are perfect, better than the ones I have purchased. And they print quickly. They are rated for over 100 years without fading, and the ink is water resistant (waterproof on some papers.) I am driving my spouse nuts as I bring print after print to her with the same "WOW! Look at this one!"
It is a BIG printer. Heavy and solidly built. Takes a lot of room, but if you want quality archival prints up to 13 X 19, clearly this is the printer for you.
Set up was easy, unlike several previous HP printers. The instructions are clear and easy to follow, but they do have to be followed exactly. The set up "manual" is 24 pages long (in English, French and Spanish)and is clearly written. Included in the box is enough quality paper to calibrate the printer (I believe this is either the only one in this price range to do this, or at least one of the few,) a process that takes about a half hour as a number of pages are printed in the process. And you do have a few sheets of HP Premium Plus paper left over. But when finished, you are set...you should not have to ever repeat this process...
There are 8 ink cartridges...they seem to have a good capacity, rated for close to 800 4 X 6 prints... and it is a good thing, as the best price I have found is $28.99 EACH from Amazon, including shipping. The unit comes with a set of fully filled ink cartridges, unlike many printers that include only partially filled cartridges.
The printer can print without much input from you, and it also can be fine tuned to your specific item. It works with Photoshop plug-ins as well, and the list of print sizes is fantastic...most every size you could want from 2 X 3 to 13 X 19, plus as many custom sizes as you wish, each of which can be saved with specific paper and quality settings for future reference.
There are a lot of printers out there, and most are far less expensive than this one, but if you want to sell your photography, or if you want to print quality presentations or even photos for framing, I believe this is the printer for you.
Well, I bought this print because of all of the glowing reviews. So now let me tell you what I needed it for and how it has performed. I teach 3d animation, so I wanted my students to be able to print their 3D models in a very high resolution. So I thought a photo print at 4800 x 1200 dpi would handle it. Well my first print was of a .jpg at about 2100 pixel wide of an image at 8x10 with my son behind one of the painted/printed signs where just his head is sticking out. Well his face printed great but the printed sign that has solid colors had fine streaks where the ink didn't print. And this didn't just happen in one color (Red). It was in the Greens as well. I had the same problem with my HP officejet 9130 but it was much worse, that is why I bought the B9180. I thought maybe It was because it was the first print. So I have printed regular high resolution photo prints which by the way look great. So I tried again printing a 3D rendered .jpg image created with 3ds Max. that was 1600 x 1200 and looked grayscale. I saw they very fine print lines when you get really close. That is disappointing. Maybe it is just that the technology is just not that good yet? I don't know. So I have spent $700 again looking for a printer that will print solid colors that don't have print lines in it. Also you will need a sturdy table, this print will really shacks the table when the print heads return. Prints good for photos not solid colors. PS it is pretty big too.
I have been a loyal Epson user for many years having used both Stylist 3000 and 5000. I had been anticipating the replacement of the 5000 since ink technology had advanced significantly in recent times and, quite frankly, I begain to loathe using or creating profiles for the different papers, etal. I researched as much as I could once the HP B9180 was announced especially taking note of its pigment inks and placed my pre-order and endured the delay of its market release. By coincidence, the Epson 5000 died a month ago and left me high and dry for several weeks until I received notice that the HP was shipping and I would receive mine in 10 days. It finally arrived and decided to dedicate the day to setting it up. Setting up and getting it to print was straight foward and patience is necessary enabling the printer to go through its setup initialization. Since I use a series of MAC's it took some time to get three machines connected by both wireless and hardwire, but managed to successfully wade through it all being a non-techy. I printed a few random prints (letter and A3+ borderless) using both the OSX print dialogue and HP print utility via the 'automate' file menu in Photoshop. The B9180 is an impressive printer at under $699 compared to the Epson 5000 printer costing $3000 when new. The color and detail is exceptional and I was using a mixed collection of papers from semi-gloss, gloss, matte and uncoated to compare results and how much correction might be needed. Having read a previous post about print speed, I also tried this as well comparing 300 dpi, 600dpi, and 1200 dpi printing... for my use, 600 dpi is more than adequate to produce acceptble prints and even 300dpi was reasonable. I only mention this because of the spooling time for higher dpi prints. One note of interest, the Epson 5000 used 120ml carts (6- ~$360) while the HP uses smallish ones (8 of them- `$280), I also read somewhere, OEM HP ink carts are their highest margin product so HP is rigorously protecting their cart patents, so don't expect to see any aftermarket non-OEM carts anytime soon. Besides the pigment inks are HP and are themselves problematic to produce consistently compared to dye-based inks. Afterall, HP rates their pigment inks at about 200 years of permanence, one of the highest in the industry. In short, I am pleased with my decision to buy the HP B9180, resigned to the price of inks, and reccomend it. To hedge my bet, I also purchased an extended warranty which is something I've never done before.
(December Update) Light Cyan and Light Magenta cartridges ran out first with the remaining cartridges having 50% or better remaining. The color has been consisent across different applications (InDesign, Photoshop, and Freehand) and the HP Print Dialogue Menu is a great tool under the 'automate' in Photoshop. Resetting the printer is time consuming and turning it 'off' requires the printer to go through its 'startup' sequence which, in itself, is time consuming. I now just leave it 'on' all the time as this partiular printer goes through a 'auto' self-maintenace cycle periodically. I had 2 paper jams using 13X19 Ilford semi-gloss paper using the 'single sheet' feeder that required me to turn the printer off and clear the jam. Paper fed from it's paper tray doesn't always go through the printer striaght about 50% of the time all be it slightly crooked, but still annoying and wasteful. Like other printers I've owned in the past, the HP B9180 is no exception to adjusting to its quirks as well as paying attention where needed. If anyone has spent time in the darkroom printing color prints knows the adjustments with any inkjet printer is small potatos. I've yet to use any HP branded papers and still use the various papers I have on hand.
I just got my printer today, so maybe it's a little premature to write a review, but I already know some of the key things I'd look for in a review.
Background: I have an Epson R800 which doesn't get much use. Before that I had an Epson 2000p. The R800 only accepted small (8 ½") paper, and always seemed to require a lot of effort and fiddling to get a good print. The 2000p was a great printer, but preceded the days of separate color cartridges, so was rather expensive to use. For its time, it was a terrific printer.
On to the B9180. It takes paper up to 13" wide, so we're back to a larger format. In fact this printer is a tank. This is my first HP photo printer and I think I picked the right time to switch brands. The HP now uses archival quality inks, which is one of the reasons I had always stuck with Epson in the past. If you're any kind of photographer, you don't want prints that are going to fade over time.
Initial setup went smoothly. Pulling some of the protective caps required a little force so was a bit scary (you really don't want to screw up a $700 printer before it prints something). The quick start guide and LCD panel directed you what to do. Basically you put in the ink, the printheads, and it takes about half an hour calibrating itself. I know the initial setup will use up some ink, but according to the printer, the matte black cartridge was only 68% full after setup completed. Other cartridges were left with between 70% - 85% according to the printers sensors. This printer is supposed to be very efficient in maintaining itself, so it will be interesting to see how much it ends up costing to run.
One thing that does use up ink is printing pictures that don't look like they did on your computer screen. The first print I made (that was particularly difficult to print on the Epson) came out perfectly, and rather quickly, it seemed.
The printer comes with a plug-in for Photoshop that makes printing a snap. If you don't happen to use Photoshop, it's not a big deal, but if you do, the plug-in is a very nice convenience.
So, I give this printer top marks for output quality, ease of use, and speed. How well it performs with only intermittent use, and costs to use over time remains to be seen. But where the Epson R800 falls in the category of "I really wasted my money", the HP B9180 is falling into the "Money well spent" slot. There's also a theory that companies make cheap printers to sell expensive cartridges. When they profit from the printer, they are not as greedy selling the ink. Who knows?
This printer is a great tool to have to compliment the current quality of the 6-12 megapixel dSLRs now available. I use a Nikon D200 currently, and the HP B9180 should show off its output quite nicely.
I just got the brand new HP B9180 13x19 pigmented ink printer. I had been waiting for it to hit the market since Feb. Well, it was worth the wait. This printer replaced my Epson 2200, which i thought produced beautiful prints.
These prints out of the 9180 are even nicer. So far, in just 2 days of printing, i found that using HP's print management system produces different results from printing from Photoshops print with preview. The colors with HP management are more vibrant and brighter than either the Epson or PS's printing. I used Ilfords pearl and got beautiful results. And it prints fast. Then i printed on a Legion matte paper and got even better results. A night time skyline panorama looked more detailed and brighter on the matte than the pearl paper.
The advanced photo paper -glossy from HP seems to scratch easily. That's my initial impression. I think i will be buying more matte paper for my photos. So far, i like my new printer. The idea of photos lasting 1-2 hundred years is appealing.
The HP software is also more detailed and clearer to use and offers more choices than Epson's. I was able to add ICC profiles of the Ilford paper easily.
One thing not all in place yet is HP's support for this printer. There is no Mac driver for the 9180 on HP's web site-just 3 Windows versions.
Also their email support was not too on the mark. However, when i called a support person, he did try to be as helpful as he could and even called me back the next day to say he would be mailing out a scarce replpacement CD to me. Very nice.
I did get a message from the printer today that i was running out of light magenta ink after not too many prints (maybe 8-11x14's). When checked, it says i have 35% remaining. a bit premature on the warning, but i will get some more ink befor i run out.
Based on my preliminary prints, i recommend this printer to people who want the latest, fastest printer making beautiful archival prints. If this printer is like my other 3 HP printers, it should provide years of service. My Epson 2200 died after 2 months use, and i don't like having to baby Epson printers, i want them to do the work, not me. The HP has replaceable heads, a sophisticated ink system that is an ink miser (so they say), and is built like a tank for long life.
Because the printer didn't come with a USB cable I wasn't able to set the printer up right away. I bought a 15 foot cable and while my Mac Pro could identfy the printer the printer wouldn't work. Finally, after going back and buying a 10 foot cable the printer is up and running. Using photoshop and the HP "automate" plug-in the results were very good right from the start. Only problem is most paper companies do not have printer profiles for this printer (yet). Even though I'm using Moab Kokopelli I selected the HP Advanced profile and it seems to work fine.
excellent performance exactly what i was looking for to print 13x19 photographs in large and outstanding matter i have other hp products and have had very good experiences this printer also prints in all sizes up to 13x19 a big step forward in comparison to 8x10 try it you will like it when you make the correct adjustments this machine is for professionals and seasoned amateurs like myself. adb
As a long-time Epson user and a pro photographer, I was a bit hesitant about trying this printer out to replace my aging Epson 2200 that I never could quite get an exact screen-to-printer color match out of despite taking the Epson basic and advanced Print Academy classes. I read many good reviews and a couple of negative ones of the B9180 but the negative ones were about anything but the printer (and the writers sounded like old soreheads, so I didn't place too much stock in them. Some people are just born to be complainers no matter what. They probably can't read the directions for the printer setup anyway.)
This printer is absolutely fantastic and produces staggeringly beautiful prints. The directions for setup were clear and concise and the setup went flawlessly.
I had a couple of questions for HP and called the customer service number in their documentation on a Friday night at 10:30 Central Time and got an English-speaking American within 30 seconds in the queue. My questions were answered promptly, fully and politely.
I haven't yet completely calibrated my workflow and instead produced a couple of prints on HP Advanced Glossy Photo Paper using the supplied AdobeRGB in-printer color management selection in the print driver and it produced the closest spot-on AdobeRGB color match print I've ever seen without custom ICC profiles and Photoshop color management.
I haven't begun to tap all the capabilities of this printer but it no doubt will be the best printer I've ever had and produce better prints than I ever got out of my Epson 2200.
I thoroughly recommend it for amateurs, advanced-amateurs and pros alike. You'll love it and Amazon's great pricing and quick delivery.
I placed an order for this printer through Amazon at the end of May. The delivery date kept getting pushed forward. Nearly one month later, it finally arrived this past Tuesday, 6/19/2007 and I TRIED to install/initialize it today, Sunday, 6/24/2007. The installation process started to go fine except for the paper jamming five times during the print head calibration and the non-existent website the software would have you try to register your product to.
Rather than hassle with Amazon to get a replacement and being optimistic that HP Support could help, I call HP support and was shuttled between SEVEN Customer Service representatives, from an off-shore country, that promised me a technician would be speaking with me shortly; 49 minutes later, I hung up and called Amazon for a replacement. If the replacement comes in sub-par, expect to see an even less favorable review of the product and HP. Geez, how can you trust a company to make decent, reliable products if their senior executives are spying on their Board of Directors and their Board of Directors are divulging confidential information to the public?
HP can occasionally build quality products but cannot treat a customer to a truly positive experience to support their products-at least with the B9180. For being such a big company, they may have talent but their operations support staff is a poor excuse to the customer. Shame on them.
I will update this review after the second printer arrives. And to think I was considering the z3100! Boy, I'm glad I didn't spend the bucks on that one. As it is, HP's pricing structure on the z3100 is extremely convoluted leaving many early adopters out in the cold by $800.00+ for the Advanced Printing System that is now included. Is that the way someone should be treated after dropping $5,000.00 on a printer? Shame on HP.
Ironically, the sales manager at Samy's on Fairfax in Los Angeles is thinking of carrying the HP Fine Art printer line. They already have the big printers from Epson and Cannon. He'll be receiving a call from me this week. One simple question for him, "How many HP headaches do you want?"
I would urge anyone looking for a fine art printer, to consider the mediocre support you'll receive from HP as a strong factor when making a fine art printer purchase. Shame on HP.
The one I received from Amazon was DOA, never got one print from it. I contacted HP immediately and after some waiting on the telephone they set up to replace it. Very nice of them, the replacement arrived less than a week later. Thank you Cindy.
It produces excellent prints especially on the very expensive fine art paper. I don't think this machine is meant for an amature, unless you're loaded or just have a fetish for really spectacular prints. If you have the money to spend it is well worth it. If I didn't sell the prints I think it would be a very expensive habit however. The prints on the fine art paper are luscious, maybe the most realistic I've seen!! I would recommend this printer with some reservations. It does only a pretty fair job on the plain card stock that I use for greeting cards. It really excells as a fine art/photo printer however. Also, lay out the extra bucks and buy straight from HP, it may save you some hassel. I have a Z3100ps GP arriving tomorrow or the day after, I'll let you know about that one at a later date.
I've owned this printer for less than two months. Just last week, it stopped working. After a few minutes with tech support, I was told I have "defective firmware" and that I can exchange it for a new one. Here's what it does: When I print something, it stops in the middle of the first piece of paper, and tells me I'm out of paper. Nothing prints, I'm actually not out of paper, the thing is just totally screwed up. Another thing, when I first bought it and set it up, before I had a chance to print one thing on it, it ran out of black matte ink. It wouldn't let me set it up on the network cause it wouldn't let me past the "out of black matte ink" message on the screen. My local stores do not carry this kind of speciality ink, so I had to wait until my ink arrived in the mail and the network person had to come back to my house to finish setting up the network.
Please note that this printer will not work as advertised with VISTA. HP customer support has informed me that the printer does not support 13x19 printing with VISTA. I learned this after troubleshooting and wasting major amounts of ink and costly paper. In this large size, prints only contain part of the image. I purchased this printer because HPs website advertises this printer as "certified for VISTA" and capable of borderless prints at 13x19. It amazes me that HP continues to falsely advertise their product. Be warned of this issue and HPs decision to continue to falsely advertise.
Out of the box, I plugged it in, installed the driver and photoshop plug in, and was printing. It had an printhead issue when I started printing (a certain printhead wasn't functioning well, resulting in certain colors not printing), but I followed the directions in the manual and on the printer's screen, and the problem was corrected. I was terrified I had broken it, but it corrected the problem with only a few steps. Print head insertion was easy, print cartridge insertion and replacement is really easy. Of course, if you print a lot, you burn through some print cartridges pretty quickly. I found the cartridges easily on Amazon and HP's website. The fancy papers are expensive, but they are specialty papers, so expensive is not surprising. The only thing I find to be a small frustration is when I want to print outside of Photoshop. The Photoshop print plug in is perfect, no worries. However, I am an Aperture user, and would like to print from Aperture sometimes. When I do so, the print colors are different. I find great print to print consistency when printing from Photoshop with the plug in, so that is great. The other quibble I have is the specialty paper door on the from of the printer (the silver panel in photos of the printer). It operates without trouble, the printer knows whats going on when you open the door, it gives you easy to follow instructions on inserting specialty paper, but the door itself feels a little placticky. Not the solid, smooth piece I would want it to be. However, I finally have a printing option for my studio that allows me to print beautiful results without trying to be a printer tech as well as a photographer! As far as I am concerned this is the one stop solution I was looking for.
I'm so sorry. I had this whole big thing written up about how great this printer is, and then my browser crashed, leaving my review behind in the dust. Rather than re-writing it (don't we all hate doing that...), I'll just leave it at that. Great printer. Buy one. Buy their $30 extended 3-year next-day exchange warranty. Good day.
This is the best printer I have ever owned. I still use a lower tech printer for simple text based routine stuff, but when I need to tweak things and send friends photos, the HP B9180 is incredible with respect to what it produces. I'm not a professional, but for my purposes, this printer meets pro requirements.
Current Setup:
Mac OX 10.4.9, G4 Dual 1.25, Photoshop CS2, printing primarily on HP Advanced Photo Glossy paper, Ilford Gallerie Smooth Pearl paper [Download the profile directly from Ilford]
Previous experiance:
-Epson 1280 "old school"
Pros:
-Very substantial size and build
-Good wide color gamut [not as wide as the Canon imagePROGRAF iPF5000 especially when reproducing blue but very comparable to Epson 2400 & 1800]
-Wide variety of media, most of the time the closest comparable driver will work on different media
-24/7 call-in support
-stingy ink usage
-printer based color management is outstanding!
-love the plugin
Cons:
-Took me a second to figure out where to add new media profiles
-Printing on 5x7 sheet media from time to time I have experianced an issue where there is a line ~.25 of and inch thick and neither I nor HP has determined the issue.
-Ink coverage not complete, ie. in solid colors there are fine lines where there is no ink
-DO NOT USE PREMIUM OR PREMIUM PLUS PAPER AS THESE PAPERS HAVE A COATING THAT HELPS PRINTS FROM DYE BASED PRINTERS LAST LONGER; ONLY ADVANCED PAPER, THE PRINTER DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A PROFILE FOR THESE PAPERS.
-There is limited availability of photo paper in my Area, Birmingham, AL MSA
FYI
The first cartridges I had to replace were the light gray and light Cyan, I print portrait photography primarily.
I bought this printer to replace an Epson 2200 and I have been very happy with my choice. As compared to the 2200, I have the following observation:
1. Resolution seems to be virtually identical. This is good as I was always pleased with the resolution of the 2200.
2. Black and white capability much better on the HP. I was never able to get a dead neutral b&w image with the 2200. I could come close if I printed with black ink only, but it was still not quite there. If I printed composite b&w, I always got a slight color cast. With the HP, printing with black ink only gives a very neutral b&w image and printing with composite b&w is almost as neutral.
3. Much less metamerism. One of the problems I had with the 2200 was in evaluating color because it shifted dramatically in different light. This effect is MUCH less evident with the HP.
4. No changing cartridges when going from gloss to matte paper. This is one of the biggest advantages of the HP. It is a real pleasure being able to go back and forth between gloss and matte paper without the hassle (and the wasting of ink) involved in changing the black ink cartridge.
I realize that the Epson 2200 has been replaced with the 2400 and that many of the problems I have experienced with the 2200 have been fixed. However, the 2400 still requires that you change the black ink cartidge. I have seen comparison prints between the 2400 and the HP and the only place that the 2400 might have an advantage is in shadow detail on b&w prints. The 2400 uses three black inks instead of two and this might give it an edge. The slight differences that I THOUGHT I saw were not enough to justify the extra cost of the 2400 and the hassle of changing ink cartridges.
The HP has its built-in self calibration system which should result in more consistent prints -- particularly after changing cartidges. I have not had it long enough to comment on this.
One area where Epson still has an advantage is in paper. There is a greater variety of papers, both from Epson and from third-party suppliers, for the Epson printers. This situation seems to be improving. I am constantly finding more third-party papers that now have a profile for the HP printer.
Another area in which the HP suffers is their software. I am using it with Photoshop CS2 (and the CS3 beta). I have found that some features don't work and that others are a little cumbersome. I have also noticed that if I make a mistake and tell the printer to use the main tray (or to automatically select the tray) when I have put paper in the Specialty Media tray, the printer will stop responding and I have to turn it off to recover. These are minor annoyances and can be overcome just be being careful to do things properly, but this is not the way software (or firmware, if that is where the problem is) should work. I use a PC and have been told that the Mac software works a little better.
I think this printer represents a tremendous value and produces marvelous prints.
I've been using this printer for a couple of weeks now and I'm very happy with it. The prints are spectacular! I've tried a few of the new specialty papers made for this printer. The advanced photo paper makes a print that is smudge free and waterproof from the moment it comes out the printer. The vivera inks are a huge step up from previous inks. By swinging down a door on the front the entire printing mechanism moves up and out of the way to receive heavy flat stock up to 13" x 19". You need some room behind the printer for the paper to move, but the results are amazing. The artist matt canvas creates a wonderful effect. You will need to buy or order wood canvas frames to properly mount them but I love the effect.
The printer is quite large. I had to make a new area for it. Also you never turn it off. They recommend letting it run and do automatic print head maintenance. I've had mine on since it arrived. Every now and then there is a little noise as it goes through it's routine. I only notice it every few days and it's pretty quick.
This is a very high end printer. My friends have the similar new Epson and Canon printers and the HP blows them away. The ink cartridges are quite large; 2-3 times more ink then the other brands. After many prints the levels have hardly moved. If you want professional quality prints on a variety of papers, including flat heavy stock, this is the printer for you.
I have had my HP B9180 Photo Printer for five weeks now and I'm very happy with it. The print quality is outstanding and the printer has been trouble free since I set it up. I've printed photos from 4 x 6 up to 13 x 19 from both the main tray and the specialty tray.
The box arrived with some dents and dings, however, the printer is fine. The easy to follow directions made start up a nonevent. I'm still(after a month of intermittent use) trying to get the color management issues resolved. I only have Photoshop Elements that, apparently, doesn't support the one stop shopping color management that a more expensive version has. Using printer managed color does a nice job but I'm wondering if the prints could be even better.
I installed the wireless print kit and finally got that working after a day of fooling with it. The directions are more of a rough outline and a few things were different.
The summary is that it makes great prints and takes up a big space. I have not had any paper slewing problems with 4 x 6 to 13 x 19 sheets.
Prints beautiful images and can print on media up to 44" long! I've printed on vinyl for car magnets, and it works great...just remember to over-laminate your finished work if you intend for it to be waterproof...otherwise the pigmented ink will smear if allowed to be wet then wiped.
Other than that...great printer!
Ive only had the printer a short while but have printed enough to see that this a great printer, extremely easy to set up, a great deal for all that you get and excellent print quality. The new pigment inks this printer uses are said to be fade resistant for nearly 200 years, for a while pigment inks didnt look as good as dye based inks, especially on glossy paper, but hps new vivera inks are gorgeous!
The printer is quiet, and unobtrusive when printing (though its always kinda big on the desktop but thats part of the deal with a larger format printer).
The quality of the chassis is excellent and all parts work together very nicely, you can tell that alot of thought and time went into this design.
Most importantly, though ive used it on and off for about a month, i haven't seen any problems with clogged nozzles or banding or any of that, hp recommends the printer be left on all the time and it will intermittently run some diagnostics and very short cleaning cycles which are said to use almost no ink (unlike epson which has big problems with clogging, and volume of ink used during cleaning in my experience).
What a great printer! Buy it for sure! As of February 2007, its only competition is from epson (as the canon pigment 13 inch wide printer hasn't come out yet) and it beats the epson for three important reasons.
The hp can print on matte and glossy paper with no toggling of the black ink cartridge (a stupid idea that a big company like epson should no better than to implement), the heads in the hp are replaceable (for about $40-), whereas the epsons aren't. If they were to develop a very bad clog or be damaged or wear out, they are easily replaced and the printer would then self-calibrate itself to compensate for any differences between the two heads (awesome! and something the epson cannot do.), and the cleaning issue already discussed. Ive had two epson printers, both of which hated me the whole time, always being whiny about how their heads were dirty and wasting paper and ink by clogging in the middle of the print (something the hps built in calibrator will recognize and correct for, thanks hp guys!)
Its only drawback is that its a little bit ugly...but...well...its ugly, make up your own mind (sorta ugly like an old volvo though, in my experience things like that tend to grown on you!)
So in summary, hp clearly spent alot of time to win market share from epson (who basically invented bubble-jet printing tenish years ago) and has done a GREAT job of it. This printer really raises the bar for all other inexpensive high grade amateur printers. If you can afford it, you will be very pleased with your purchase.
WOW! That is the only description I had as my first 13 X 19 print rolled off this printer. I printed on HP soft gloss premium plus paper, and the prints are perfect, better than the ones I have purchased. And they print quickly. They are rated for over 100 years without fading, and the ink is water resistant (waterproof on some papers.) I am driving my spouse nuts as I bring print after print to her with the same "WOW! Look at this one!"
It is a BIG printer. Heavy and solidly built. Takes a lot of room, but if you want quality archival prints up to 13 X 19, clearly this is the printer for you.
Set up was easy, unlike several previous HP printers. The instructions are clear and easy to follow, but they do have to be followed exactly. The set up "manual" is 24 pages long (in English, French and Spanish)and is clearly written. Included in the box is enough quality paper to calibrate the printer (I believe this is either the only one in this price range to do this, or at least one of the few,) a process that takes about a half hour as a number of pages are printed in the process. And you do have a few sheets of HP Premium Plus paper left over. But when finished, you are set...you should not have to ever repeat this process...
There are 8 ink cartridges...they seem to have a good capacity, rated for close to 800 4 X 6 prints... and it is a good thing, as the best price I have found is $28.99 EACH from Amazon, including shipping. The unit comes with a set of fully filled ink cartridges, unlike many printers that include only partially filled cartridges.
The printer can print without much input from you, and it also can be fine tuned to your specific item. It works with Photoshop plug-ins as well, and the list of print sizes is fantastic...most every size you could want from 2 X 3 to 13 X 19, plus as many custom sizes as you wish, each of which can be saved with specific paper and quality settings for future reference.
There are a lot of printers out there, and most are far less expensive than this one, but if you want to sell your photography, or if you want to print quality presentations or even photos for framing, I believe this is the printer for you.
Well, I bought this print because of all of the glowing reviews. So now let me tell you what I needed it for and how it has performed. I teach 3d animation, so I wanted my students to be able to print their 3D models in a very high resolution. So I thought a photo print at 4800 x 1200 dpi would handle it. Well my first print was of a .jpg at about 2100 pixel wide of an image at 8x10 with my son behind one of the painted/printed signs where just his head is sticking out. Well his face printed great but the printed sign that has solid colors had fine streaks where the ink didn't print. And this didn't just happen in one color (Red). It was in the Greens as well. I had the same problem with my HP officejet 9130 but it was much worse, that is why I bought the B9180. I thought maybe It was because it was the first print. So I have printed regular high resolution photo prints which by the way look great. So I tried again printing a 3D rendered .jpg image created with 3ds Max. that was 1600 x 1200 and looked grayscale. I saw they very fine print lines when you get really close. That is disappointing. Maybe it is just that the technology is just not that good yet? I don't know. So I have spent $700 again looking for a printer that will print solid colors that don't have print lines in it. Also you will need a sturdy table, this print will really shacks the table when the print heads return. Prints good for photos not solid colors. PS it is pretty big too.
I have been a loyal Epson user for many years having used both Stylist 3000 and 5000. I had been anticipating the replacement of the 5000 since ink technology had advanced significantly in recent times and, quite frankly, I begain to loathe using or creating profiles for the different papers, etal. I researched as much as I could once the HP B9180 was announced especially taking note of its pigment inks and placed my pre-order and endured the delay of its market release. By coincidence, the Epson 5000 died a month ago and left me high and dry for several weeks until I received notice that the HP was shipping and I would receive mine in 10 days. It finally arrived and decided to dedicate the day to setting it up. Setting up and getting it to print was straight foward and patience is necessary enabling the printer to go through its setup initialization. Since I use a series of MAC's it took some time to get three machines connected by both wireless and hardwire, but managed to successfully wade through it all being a non-techy. I printed a few random prints (letter and A3+ borderless) using both the OSX print dialogue and HP print utility via the 'automate' file menu in Photoshop. The B9180 is an impressive printer at under $699 compared to the Epson 5000 printer costing $3000 when new. The color and detail is exceptional and I was using a mixed collection of papers from semi-gloss, gloss, matte and uncoated to compare results and how much correction might be needed. Having read a previous post about print speed, I also tried this as well comparing 300 dpi, 600dpi, and 1200 dpi printing... for my use, 600 dpi is more than adequate to produce acceptble prints and even 300dpi was reasonable. I only mention this because of the spooling time for higher dpi prints. One note of interest, the Epson 5000 used 120ml carts (6- ~$360) while the HP uses smallish ones (8 of them- `$280), I also read somewhere, OEM HP ink carts are their highest margin product so HP is rigorously protecting their cart patents, so don't expect to see any aftermarket non-OEM carts anytime soon. Besides the pigment inks are HP and are themselves problematic to produce consistently compared to dye-based inks. Afterall, HP rates their pigment inks at about 200 years of permanence, one of the highest in the industry. In short, I am pleased with my decision to buy the HP B9180, resigned to the price of inks, and reccomend it. To hedge my bet, I also purchased an extended warranty which is something I've never done before.
(December Update) Light Cyan and Light Magenta cartridges ran out first with the remaining cartridges having 50% or better remaining. The color has been consisent across different applications (InDesign, Photoshop, and Freehand) and the HP Print Dialogue Menu is a great tool under the 'automate' in Photoshop. Resetting the printer is time consuming and turning it 'off' requires the printer to go through its 'startup' sequence which, in itself, is time consuming. I now just leave it 'on' all the time as this partiular printer goes through a 'auto' self-maintenace cycle periodically. I had 2 paper jams using 13X19 Ilford semi-gloss paper using the 'single sheet' feeder that required me to turn the printer off and clear the jam. Paper fed from it's paper tray doesn't always go through the printer striaght about 50% of the time all be it slightly crooked, but still annoying and wasteful. Like other printers I've owned in the past, the HP B9180 is no exception to adjusting to its quirks as well as paying attention where needed. If anyone has spent time in the darkroom printing color prints knows the adjustments with any inkjet printer is small potatos. I've yet to use any HP branded papers and still use the various papers I have on hand.
I just got my printer today, so maybe it's a little premature to write a review, but I already know some of the key things I'd look for in a review.
Background: I have an Epson R800 which doesn't get much use. Before that I had an Epson 2000p. The R800 only accepted small (8 ½") paper, and always seemed to require a lot of effort and fiddling to get a good print. The 2000p was a great printer, but preceded the days of separate color cartridges, so was rather expensive to use. For its time, it was a terrific printer.
On to the B9180. It takes paper up to 13" wide, so we're back to a larger format. In fact this printer is a tank. This is my first HP photo printer and I think I picked the right time to switch brands. The HP now uses archival quality inks, which is one of the reasons I had always stuck with Epson in the past. If you're any kind of photographer, you don't want prints that are going to fade over time.
Initial setup went smoothly. Pulling some of the protective caps required a little force so was a bit scary (you really don't want to screw up a $700 printer before it prints something). The quick start guide and LCD panel directed you what to do. Basically you put in the ink, the printheads, and it takes about half an hour calibrating itself. I know the initial setup will use up some ink, but according to the printer, the matte black cartridge was only 68% full after setup completed. Other cartridges were left with between 70% - 85% according to the printers sensors. This printer is supposed to be very efficient in maintaining itself, so it will be interesting to see how much it ends up costing to run.
One thing that does use up ink is printing pictures that don't look like they did on your computer screen. The first print I made (that was particularly difficult to print on the Epson) came out perfectly, and rather quickly, it seemed.
The printer comes with a plug-in for Photoshop that makes printing a snap. If you don't happen to use Photoshop, it's not a big deal, but if you do, the plug-in is a very nice convenience.
So, I give this printer top marks for output quality, ease of use, and speed. How well it performs with only intermittent use, and costs to use over time remains to be seen. But where the Epson R800 falls in the category of "I really wasted my money", the HP B9180 is falling into the "Money well spent" slot. There's also a theory that companies make cheap printers to sell expensive cartridges. When they profit from the printer, they are not as greedy selling the ink. Who knows?
This printer is a great tool to have to compliment the current quality of the 6-12 megapixel dSLRs now available. I use a Nikon D200 currently, and the HP B9180 should show off its output quite nicely.
I just got the brand new HP B9180 13x19 pigmented ink printer. I had been waiting for it to hit the market since Feb. Well, it was worth the wait. This printer replaced my Epson 2200, which i thought produced beautiful prints.
These prints out of the 9180 are even nicer. So far, in just 2 days of printing, i found that using HP's print management system produces different results from printing from Photoshops print with preview. The colors with HP management are more vibrant and brighter than either the Epson or PS's printing. I used Ilfords pearl and got beautiful results. And it prints fast. Then i printed on a Legion matte paper and got even better results. A night time skyline panorama looked more detailed and brighter on the matte than the pearl paper.
The advanced photo paper -glossy from HP seems to scratch easily. That's my initial impression. I think i will be buying more matte paper for my photos. So far, i like my new printer. The idea of photos lasting 1-2 hundred years is appealing.
The HP software is also more detailed and clearer to use and offers more choices than Epson's. I was able to add ICC profiles of the Ilford paper easily.
One thing not all in place yet is HP's support for this printer. There is no Mac driver for the 9180 on HP's web site-just 3 Windows versions.
Also their email support was not too on the mark. However, when i called a support person, he did try to be as helpful as he could and even called me back the next day to say he would be mailing out a scarce replpacement CD to me. Very nice.
I did get a message from the printer today that i was running out of light magenta ink after not too many prints (maybe 8-11x14's). When checked, it says i have 35% remaining. a bit premature on the warning, but i will get some more ink befor i run out.
Based on my preliminary prints, i recommend this printer to people who want the latest, fastest printer making beautiful archival prints. If this printer is like my other 3 HP printers, it should provide years of service. My Epson 2200 died after 2 months use, and i don't like having to baby Epson printers, i want them to do the work, not me. The HP has replaceable heads, a sophisticated ink system that is an ink miser (so they say), and is built like a tank for long life.
Because the printer didn't come with a USB cable I wasn't able to set the printer up right away. I bought a 15 foot cable and while my Mac Pro could identfy the printer the printer wouldn't work. Finally, after going back and buying a 10 foot cable the printer is up and running. Using photoshop and the HP "automate" plug-in the results were very good right from the start. Only problem is most paper companies do not have printer profiles for this printer (yet). Even though I'm using Moab Kokopelli I selected the HP Advanced profile and it seems to work fine.

